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Savage Model 10 (flat-back)

The History of Savage Arms

Savage Arms was founded in 1894 by Arthur Savage in Utica, New York. Arthur Savage held two important patents at the time: a patent for a repeating rifle with a single-column magazine lever-action rifle, which he acquired in 1891, and a patent for a hammerless lever-action design. That paved the way for Savage’s quick rise to success.

The company’s first breakthrough came in 1895 when it introduced Model 1895 – the first hammerless lever-action rifle on the market. It was modeled after Model 1892, an earlier design that never saw production due to losing a bid for a US Army contract. Model 1895, however, won the contract for New York National Guard, but it was soon canceled due to getting caught in a contemporary political climate.

Savage continued investing efforts into the production of military-grade weapons. It was named one of the two finalists in the US Army trials for a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol, and it lost only to the now-famous Colt M1911. Savage used the gained experience to produce high-quality pocket pistols, though, which resulted in the introduction of Model 1907, 1915, and 1917.

During World War I, Savage was merged with the Driggs-Seabury Ordnance company. The joint company focused all its efforts on the production of Lewis machine guns and heavy equipment for war purposes. 

Between the two wars, Savage decided to expand its business inside the USA. In 1920 it bought Stevens Arms of Chicopee, followed by A.H. Fox Gun Co. of Philadelphia and Davis-Warner Arms and CrescentArms Co. of Norwich in 1930. Success followed and in 1939 Savage introduced the Model 24 combination gun which sold over a million copies.

When World War II commenced, though, Savage was once again ready to answer the call of duty. It focused all its resources on war efforts, producing a staggering number of weapons. It already signed a contract with Auto Ordinance Co. in 1938 to manufacture the famous .45 caliber Thompson submachine gun, and most of these submachine guns that were used in WWII were produced by none other than Savage. The company was also contracted by the US government in 1940 to produce .30 and .50 caliber Browning machine guns. On top of that, Savage manufactured one of the most mass-produced bolt-action rifles of WWII, the British No. 4 Lee–Enfield. A record of 1.2 million Lee-Enfield rifles was produced by Savage during the time of war.

Production dialed down after the war, though. In 1946, Savage closed its facilities in Utica and moved all its operations to the Stevens manufacturing premises. Even though the Model 110 was introduced in 1958, which remains one of the company’s most successful rifles to this date, Savage started to experience some issues. In 1960 all production was moved to the current location of Westfield, Massachusetts, and what followed was a series of different ownerships over the company. Savage gradually ran into serious financial problems and in 1988 the company declared bankruptcy.

The company had to cut back on its manufacturing costs to the point where it even stopped producing short-action configurations of its most successful model, the aforementioned Model 110. It wasn’t until 1995 when Savage returned to private ownership led by Ronald Coburn who sort of rejuvenated the whole company.

In 2002 Savage introduced and patented AccuTrigger – a safe and user-adjustable trigger that soon became a success. The following year, in 2003, the company was named Manufacturer of the Year by the Shooting Industry Academy of Excellence, further reaffirming Savage’s distinction. Four years later, on May 15, 2007, Savage 93R17 BTVS has been named the best rifle in the Best of the Best presentation by Shooting Times, Sporting Gun, and Shooting Gazette magazines.

In 2013 Savage once again changed ownership. It was acquired by Orbital ATK for 315 million dollars, and it was later handed over to Vista Outdoor which later sold it for $170 million in 2019 to a group of private investors led by Savage’s management.

The company also had its logo changed in the middle of the 2010s when it decided to retire its old logo that presumably featured Chief Lame Deer, a native-American tribesman leader. The latter supposedly approached Arthur Savage in 1919 to purchase rifles for his tribe. In exchange for a discount, Lame Deer agreed to a deal. According to the deal, Savage was allowed to use Lame Deer’s face for promotional purposes. Many doubt the authenticity of this story, however, and Savage itself removed it from its official website as well.

Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back) Review

Savage Model 110 bolt-action repeating rifle was first introduced in 1958 by Savage Arms and has been in continuous production to this day. It was designed by Nicholas L. Brewer, who was tasked with designing a cheap alternative to the pricier contemporary hunting rifles on the market. Brewer surpassed the original expectations and designed a rifle that would get Savage Arms through its darkest times.

During its long history, the Model 110 saw a lot of changes that altered the rifle in various, sometimes significant ways. This makes reviewing this Savage model sort of complicated and special naming needs to be adopted for different periods of the rifle’s production. This is why we differentiate between 5 different versions of this model:

If you are unsure which one you own, you can read this article: How to know which Savage Model 110 you have

In this review, we’ll be focusing on the flat-back Savage Model 10 that was introduced in 1997 when Savage Arms finally managed to dig itself from the financial pit it found itself in back in 1988. It was produced until 2003 when it was replaced by a round-back Model 10.

Flat-back Savage Model 10 is also known as a short-action flat-back Model 110 (they are the same rifle, just different naming), and it is a direct successor to the older medium-action flat-back Model 110. The latter was produced from 1959 to 1988 when it was retired due to Savage’s financial difficulties. Medium-action Model 110 was actually the original short-action configuration of the legendary Savage Model 110, but that changed with the introduction of the flat-back Model 10 which has a slightly shorter action and a shorter scope mounting surface.

Furthermore, Savage introduced its patented AccuTrigger in 2002 and consequently started manufacturing all Model 110s with a round-back receiver in 2003. Therefore, Savage Model 10 made before 2003 is sometimes also referred to as “flat-back” Model 10. “Pre-AccuTrigger”, “flat rear”, and “pre-2003” are also used at times.

Round-back Model 110 on the top and flat-back Model 110 below it

Figure 1: Round-back Model 110 on the top and flat-back Model 110 below it (source: https://savagearms.com/blog?p=how-to-find-the-right-bases-for-a-savage-centerfire-rifle)

Flat-back Savage Model 10 features a steel receiver with two gas ports and four drilled and tapped holes for mounting purposes. The receiver of the flat-back Savage Model 10 is rounded in the front and flat at the back, hence the “flat-back” mark. It hosts a smooth and fast-working satin-slide bolt with two locking lugs. The bolt-release catch is found on the right side of the action behind the bolt handle (the newer Model 110 versions, however, have a bolt-release catch located in front of the trigger guard on the bottom of the rifle).

The action is usually of the push-feed style, although some of the variants that are chambered for magnum cartridges and were made before 2009 have a controlled feed action. Those are usually the long-action variants that were meant for big game hunting, such as Savage 116SE (Safari Express), for instance, so it’s unlikely there’s any controlled-feed Model 10 out there

The barrel of the flat-back Savage Model 10 is button barreled and free-floating. It usually features two iron sights – one in the front and one in the back, with the latter one being adjustable. The barrel is made of chromed steel and its length also depends on the variant and/or intended use, but it ranges from 420 to 711 mm (16.5 to 28-inch).

The very first Model 110s produced had a fixed magazine, but in 1966 the model saw some upgrades that, among other things, introduced a new ejector that allowed the use of detachable box magazines. Therefore, most flat-back Model 10s have a detachable magazine, but this, too, depends on the variant. The same goes for the mag capacity, but most of them come with a capacity for up to 4 cartridges, although there are also a few single-shot and muzzle-loading variants.

Flat-back Savage Model 11GC as seen in the Savage print catalog from 2000. Model 11 is a hunting variant of Model 10

Figure 2: Flat-back Savage Model 11GC as seen in the Savage print catalog from 2000. Model 11 is a hunting variant of Model 10 (source: https://www.savageshooters.com/content.php?308-Savage-Arms-1983-Print-Catalog)

Up to 2005, all versions of Savage Model 10 were made with a staggered feed magazine, but then Savaged introduced a centerfeed one. This didn’t affect the long-action Model 110 much since all its important dimensions stayed the same, but the action screw spacing on the short-action version changed once again. This time the changes didn’t affect the mounting surface since the distances between the four mounting holes at the top of the receiver didn’t change, but it was enough for the short- and medium-action Model 110 to lose stock interchangeability with post-2005 models. This is why centerfeed round-back stocks won't work on flat-back Model 10s with the staggered feed magazines. 

The 3-position safety catch of flat-back Savage Model 10 is located on top of the rifle’s tang. Both the trigger and the bolt are locked in the rearmost position. In the middle position, the trigger remains locked while the bolt can be cycled, and in the forward position, the rifle is in firing mode. Due to stricter US laws that were introduced in the second half of the 20th century regarding the safety of rifles, most of the rifles on the market back in the day featured triggers with a fairly weighty trigger pull-weight. The same goes for flat-back Model 10, which has a pull-weight of approx. 2.72 kg (6 lbs.).

The stock material of flat-back Model 10 depends on the variant, as does the buttstock style. All variants, however, come with a recoil pad.

Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back) Calibers

There are quite a few calibers flat-back Savage Model 10 is chambered for, but there is some confusion since Savage stopped producing short-action 110s from 1988 to 1997, and long-action versions made during this period could also be chambered for shorter calibers such as .243 Winchester and .300 Savage, for instance. Generally speaking, though, flat-back Savage Model 10 can be chambered for:

  • .223 Remington

  • 22-250 Remington

  • 7mm-08 Remington

  • .243 Winchester

  • .260 Remington

  • .270 WSM

  • .308 Winchester

  • .300 Savage

  • .300 WSM

Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back) Variants

There are a lot of flat-back Savage Model 10 variants found on the market due to the system Savage used to name its rifles. Instead of giving them different names and sticking to them, they decided to use letters to mark the variants. There are a lot of possible letter combinations and each variant that subsequently occurred was often just slightly different than the previous one, but they all operated on the same mechanism and were fairly similar. You can use the image below to make some sense of these markings.

letter markings of Savage rifles

There was another layer of confusion added to the whole Model 110 series when Savage decided to introduce a new numbering system somewhere in the late 70s or early 80s. Savages 111, 112, 114, and 116 were gradually introduced, but they are essentially just different variants of the base Model 110 with slightly different features, such as stainless-steel barrels on 116s and American walnut stocks on 114s, etc.

On top of that, when Savage fell into a deep financial hole in 1988, they decided to cut back on resources by producing one action length for all calibers, effectively retiring the short-action version of Model 110 which then wasn’t even known as “Model 10” but rather only as the “Short-action Savage Model 110” (the same goes for Model 111). When the financial difficulties were finally behind the company in 1997, Savage decided to re-introduce short-action versions of the rifle. They opted for a numbering system that was intended to simplify the distinction between short actions and long actions. Short-action models adopted a shortened name, so a short-action Savage Model 110 simply became Savage Model 10 (short-action 111 became 11, etc.). This means 1997 was essentially the birth year of Savage Model 10.

This numbering system persisted until 2018, but it, too, is now obsolete

Here are some of the most popular flat-back Savage Model 10 variants found on the market:

  • Savage Model 12BVSS

  • Savage Model 12FVSS

  • Savage Model 12FV

  • Savage Model 10FP (also known as Tactic)

  • Savage Model 12VSS (also known as varminter

  • Savage Model 16FCSS

  • Savage Model 16FSS

  • Savage Model 11GC

  • Savage Model 11G

  • Savage Model 11FC

  • Savage Model 11F

  • Savage Model 11GY

Flat-back Savage Model 10 has four drilled and tapped holes on the receiver for mounting purposes. You can find all the dimensions below.

The receiver of flat-back Savage Model 110 (LA) on the top and the receiver of flat-back Savage Model 10 on the bottom

Figure 3: The receiver of flat-back Savage Model 110 (LA) on the top and the receiver of flat-back Savage Model 10 on the bottom. Savage Model 10 is a short-action version of the Model 110. You can see the flat surface at the back of the receivers which indicates that both models depicted in the image were made prior to the 2003 changes when Savage started to make round-back receivers. You can also notice that both magazines are of the staggered-feed style. (Source: https://www.savageshooters.com/content.php?259-Savage-Arms-2000-Print-Catalog)  

Receiver Dimensions of a Savage rifle

A: 21.84 mm
B: 99.82 mm
C: 21.84 mm
BHU: 3.0 mm
Fi: 6-48
R1: Flat
R2: R17

Scope Mounts Interchangeable with Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

Rifles That Have One-Piece Scope Mounts Interchangeable with Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

The necessary condition for rifles to have one-piece scope mounts interchangeable is that the mounting surfaces of these rifles match in every dimension. Rifles that have one-piece scope mounts interchangeable with the flat-back Savage Model 10 are the following:

Rifles That Have Two-Piece Scope Mounts Interchangeable with Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

For two-piece scope mounts to be interchangeable, the mounting surfaces of the rifles must match in every dimension except the action length which can vary (distance B on the image above). This is because the distance between the two pieces of the mount is not fixed. Rifles that have two-piece scope mounts interchangeable with flat-back Savage Model 10 are the following:

Should you have any additional information regarding possible mount matches, please contact us. We will gladly accept your help and expand our database accordingly.

Best Scope Mounts for Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

Fixed Scope Mounts for Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

It can be a bit difficult to find fixed scope mounts for older Savage 110 models nowadays since every model produced after 2003 has a round top at the back of the receiver. Weaver bases, on the other hand, are still fairly easy to come by. This is why we recommend you combine these 30 mm Rusan weaver rings with this 2-piece Warne Maxima base which is perfect for the pre-2003 Savage Model 10:

Detachable Repeatable Mounts for Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

Henneberger one-piece scope mount earned our top recommendation for a detachable repeatable scope mount for a flat-back Savage Model 10. It is manufactured in Germany, is made of aluminum, and has a 30-year warranty attached to it.

It will, however, need to be coupled with a Picatinny rail. We recommend the EGW Picatinny Rail.

Picatinny Rails for Savage Model 10 (Flat-Back)

When you’re looking for a Picatinny rail for your rifle, you need to pay special attention to the length between the rear and front holes on the receiver (distance B on the image above). You can hardly ever go wrong with EGW when it comes to Picatinny rails, and this is why we recommend this EGW Picatinny rail for your flat-back Savage Model 10.

Help Us Build Our Riflescope Mounts Database

If you happen to own this or any other rifle, we would appreciate it if you could help us expand our database by sending us some photos of the rifle receiver (the bare mounting surface of the rifle without the mounts installed). For your help, our company offers a fair return in terms of practical rewards.

Please send us an email for more information. You can contact us here: info@optics-trade.eu

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Introduction

In recent years we can observe that a trend of Picatinny rail has become widespread and global. It is driven by the NATO standardized rails, more commonly known as the Picatinny rail standard. Picatinny rail being the New Jersey Arsenal that developed it in 1995.

These mounting options are revolutionary. The biggest and best advantage being that the Picatinny rail can be used its entire length and not bordered to a few pre-designed slots like for example the Weaver rail standard was before.

The other main advantage is the ease of use and interchangeability. If a product is meant for a Picatinny rail design it will fit all Picatinny-rails, no matter the manufacturer or date of production.

Picatinny/Weaver Rail

Picatinny Rail and Weaver rail profile

Design

The Picatinny rail is almost exclusively crafted from a single piece of metal (in some cases aluminum). In this manner, the axis of the Picatinny rail is perfectly straight and aligned with the axis of the firearm. Therefore the rifle scope which is mounted onto this kind of configuration is certainly aligned with the rifle / gun and the trajectory of the ammunition.

Weaver rail design on the other hand is usually manufactured in two separate pieces, greatly increasing the possibilities for the axis to be crooked, overlapping, and out of line.

It is always harder to align two separate pieces to a third line than it is to align one piece to another. In this way, the lapping of two mounting rings on a single-piece Picatinny rail is no longer required.

The single-piece rail will assure that both rings are perfectly aligned to each other and that no unwished stress is transferred to the riflescope.  

Picatinny compare to Weaver Rail

The Picatinny rail itself is an evolutionary step forward from the older Weaver rail. The main difference between Picatinny rail and Weaver rail is the spacing of the slots. Picatinny rail design has them evenly placed exactly 5.23 mm from one slot to the other, 3 mm deep. For this reason, the mounting options are repeatable and the same as other firearms using the Picatinny rail standard.

Interchangeability was a major driving force in the development of the new standard as different NATO armies need to be compatible with each other.

Weaver rail has 3.8mm wide slots and these slots can be placed anywhere on the Weaver rail and in any number that the producer wished.

Advantages of Picatinny design

A big advantage for using the Picatinny rail design is the ever-present recoil stop. Furthermore, the manufacturing of the rail is not very technically demanding and can be done without the use of state-of-the-art machines which greatly reduces the cost of the finished product, making it very affordable.

The Picatinny rail is easy to mount and usually, this type of configuration does not transfer negative stresses and forces from the fired weapon to the rifle scope.

In addition, the Picatinny rail with its very long useable surface works well for mounting longer rifle scopes or to achieve optimum eye relief.

The durability and toughness are other big pluses for this solution.

Manufacturers of Popular Models

A majority of the Picatinny rings are fixed, but a number of best rated European manufacturers (EAW, MAK,..) have, in recent years, put a lot of effort into the development of detachable ring with100% repeatability, with which it becomes easy to remove the scope from the weapon without the use of tools.

No re-zeroing is needed with such mount options, but these models tend to be expensive

Weaver and Picatinny Rings

Picatinny rail and weaver rail share one more thing. It is possible to use the Weaver ring and the Picatinny ring on the Picatinny-rails, but it is usually impossible to use the Picatinny ring on the Weaver base. The reason being the above-mentioned positioning and spacing of the slots.

  • Picatinny mounts have a 5mm recoil stop that goes into the rail slot and since
  • Weaver rail only has 3.8mm wide slots such rings do not fit on Weaver rails.

Due to this reason, the Picatinny-rails are popular and prevailing on the market in recent years and eventually, these options will completely oust the Weaver rail from the market.